Re: Downgrade to Edgy from Feisty?

From: Dylan Griffiths <dylang_at_no.spam.please>
Date: Tue Jul 17 2007 - 21:14:19 CST

Steven Kurylo wrote:
> There is no supported, sane, way.
>

Here's another one I expect to be greeted with ^^, but I figure it's
worth asking.

1) Is it possible get 6.10 and above with a nice, normal, documented,
easy to modify, and doesn't cause a shit-pile of services to puke onto
my console from the background init system to replace "upstart" the
annoyingly not-useful startup system (which I never realized how
annoying it was until I had to reboot more regularly to deal with this
kernel/hardware trickery)?

I swear, Upstart is like Microsoft got a hold of the Ubuntu folks. I
realize it's a great idea to rearrange things so that the IO-waits
aren't a big deal, but the console comes up with a login prompt, and I
have to wait until all the crap spewing in the background stops being
started before I can actually do anything. Hey, it's like Windows XP!
Login and watch the background processes flip out...

I'm starting to itch to see how hard it would be to take Slackware and
graft Ubuntu's apt system onto it, since Slackware has an init system
that won't quit and no crazy secret sauce (I want to replace the Ubuntu
linux images with my own hand rolled ones, but apt gets in the way of
that -- grrr). I guess the easy thing to ask is:

2) Is it possible to get Ubuntu's userland without the Ubuntu-supplied
Linux images (including their initrd/initramfs setup) so that the files
in the filesystem reflect what the kernel will get when it starts up
(which VASTLY simplifies the roll-your-own route for kernels)?

Thoughts?
Received on Tue Jul 17 21:14:25 2007

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